Only thing Ill add to the list is, You might be an IFB if you greet all visitors with huge smiles, handshakes, and extreme cheerfulness. I feel sorry for all the visitors we almost accosted now; no wonder some never came back! We believe that men are justified by faith alone and are accounted righteous before God only through the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Its method of operation is subversive. The True Church: The doctrine of a believer's church is a key belief in Baptist life. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. For example, #54. 18. I dont even know what a Scofield Bible is but I believe God can use divorced people. WebEvery active member wishing to speak shall rise and respectfully address the moderator. The Lord is doing His work in ths world through local churches. when you run into her at Wal*Mart. He wasnt saying that spanking is right or wrong, but that definitely extreme discipline and beating kids is not what the Bible teaches. Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. 2. The Pastor leads, feeds, guides, and guards the church at the direction of Christ. But I still think that every Christian should spend some time in an IFB church. They simply do not know and probably lack the ability to do the research, but Cyril I. Scofield was a Confederate soldier who left his wife and two children and later remarried another woman.
Faith Bible Baptist Church's Bible Study Internet Links But it cannot be pleasant carrying all that bitterness around with you every day. I praise the lord for that because if I sin I dont have to announce it to anyone but my Heavenly Father and he is faithful and just to forgive me. Attending an IFB church is the only way to hear the true gospel and get saved There are so many churches that claim the be the one, true, church, especially the Catholics, Greek Orthodox, Anglicans, some Lutherans, Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, etc. Im sad to here that fellow Christians cant get along, and I will start praying for all Churchs to be revived. WHY do children that leave IFB churches hardly ever come back? If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 55. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week (Sunday mornings, Sunday evenings, and Wednesday evenings for Bible studies which I will assume) I cant agree with this, you must attend at least one. If your pastor is a true scholar of the Bible and is on fire with eagerness to teach it, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 47. He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. The school was run by Lester Roloff, an independent fundamental Baptist preacher who broke from the Southern Baptist Convention in 1954 and founded a series The last pastor I had, at Mountain, would yell sometimes on his sermons to make sense of humor since most of his sermons were pretty funny but never pounded the pulpit. The ones that do apply, I dont see a problem with (ie, we do have a track rack and we do have a van that picks up from surrounding neighborhoods and I do enjoy attending church 3 times a week and would enjoy more if possible.) We believe education in the world is good, but the teaching of evolution needs to be addressed if the individual is a little kid as false doctrine. Christ died for his sin already, so he had already been forgiven by God. "[3], The New IFB was formed by Anderson and other Baptist pastors in 2017 in an attempt to revive what they perceived older independent Baptist churches once represented. For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. We affirm without apology the doctrines frequently identified as the Fundamentals of the Faith, which include the deity, virgin birth, sinless life, substitutionary death, bodily resurrection, and imminent return of Jesus Christ. We had no money.. I dare say it would be the one you enjoy making fun of. [4], Despite the website's claims that each church is independent, some followers and former followers of the New IFB have accused Anderson of having complete control over the organization and ejecting anyone who has a minor disagreement with him. We believe that the souls of unbelievers remain, after death, in conscious misery until the second resurrection, when with soul and body reunited they shall appear at the Great White Throne Judgment, and shall be cast into the Lake of Fire, not to be annihilated, but to suffer everlasting, conscious punishment (Luke 16:19-26; Matthew 25:41-46; II Thessalonians 1:7-9; Jude 6-7; Mark 9:43-48; Revelation 20:11-15). They bought your loyalty. Me and my boyfriend were going to break up unless there was hope for change. His mom, Dorothy Chrisman, was a teacher at the academy run by Fairhaven. If you see buses full of kids of all ethnicities and backgrounds coming to worship together, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Its about Jesus. insidious I like that word. Freedom of choice demands personal responsibility. Anderson and other New IFB pastors have praised the Orlando gay nightclub shooting. Sin is sin and the Holy Spirit works in us to pinpoint where we need to change and this happens while we are in the word. Tithing was around since before the Law of Moses.
Assemble Anywhere KJV Churches I remember a particular lesson in church about the rod and staff. For you say that it means nothing to swear by Gods Temple, but that it is binding to swear by the gold in the Temple. 17 Blind fools! It uses the Bible to treat everything from porn addiction On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels. The Bible gives qualifications for each office. We believe that the only marriage recognized by Scripture is the joining of one man and one woman. Their testimony is great Im sure they won more people to the lord than you. Is that what the great commission tells us to do: Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and send lost loved ones to an IFB church so that they might be saved (DHV Don Holt Version). Plus they believe that one cannot lose his salvation, Eternal Security, or Once Saved, Always Saved on the Calvinist view. Basically he was just marketing for his college. Some of these doctrines are as listed. However, some (I agree Ogrodnik) are unfair and judgmental. It made me think of this, Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; Its a shame, but whattayagonnado? Im told its because when u abandon the real truth, theres hardly any hope. Pastor and his wife paid for reception, photographers, and and shower. The word fundamental simply means that we adhere to the fundamentals (basics) of the true Christian faith. The New IFB considers the modern nation of Israel to be a fraud and it also teaches that Christians rather than Jews are God's chosen people. If people asked rather than assumed there would be a lot less reactions.
Im not responsible for how its perceived. We believe in verbal, plenary inspiration in the original writings, and God's preservation of His pure words to every generation (II Timothy 3:16, Psalms 12:6-8). You seem to enjoy copying and pasting scripture with no explanation or apparent relevance to the discussion so I thought Id give it a try also. But I did want to let you know that although some ifb churches may not be the best it doesnt make us a cult. I aint got any place to judge anyone because in all honesty i have messed up in life a lot. I prefer Kjv!
The Conservative Baptist Association: "Winning the World" Those are my concerns about the 25 topics about the Independent Fundamental Baptist beliefs. Thats sweet. We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, as it is in truth, the Word of God (I Thessalonians 2:13). For you are like whitewashed tombsbeautiful on the outside but filled on the inside with dead peoples bones and all sorts of impurity. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? I like that about them and not just them but the whole church, because the company you keep will influence you. Scofield Bible!!!! I understand that its hard to convey emotions when typing, but the above list does not have the feel that it was done with a spirit of love but one of condemnation. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 31. You are quick to throw in a jab about how much you dislike them, but cannot tolerate anyone saying different. You should have, instead of adding a dozen or so of your comments, said If you believe everything in the Bible, you might be an Independent Baptist. Please correct me if Im wrong, but arent we supposed to follow the teachings of the Bible, such as tithing? How come many Americans havent heard of the Independent Fundamental Baptist church movement? New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. My jabs are defensive in nature. Here are my concerns about the beliefs since I am not Independent Baptist, Southern Baptist, or part of any Baptist affiliation: If you think that tithing of ten percent of your income is the minimum I dont have any position on this even though I do believe in tithes and offerings. Jesus saved by dying on the cross in my husbands place. Great job adding a bit of levity! Praise the lord for giving it to us.
Welcome to the Duggars world of Independent Like I said, Im doing repair work. If your child is behaving like a child but you think they are rebellious, misbehaving, mischevious, etc. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 44. I do agree that its not sinful about renting movies or watching them on TV. If you might confuse KJV with KJB its the same thing but its a preference on how people might want to call it. 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? People need Jesuswhats the big deal? The key is that youre not suppose to JUST sit under the teaching/preaching of anyone without reading the Bible, seeking wisdom from God, and fellow shipping with people who are interested in drawing closer to God. Baptists as a whole, are pretty terrible. They had made an idol out of church attendance. Clapping after special is music is wrong because it gives praise to performers rather than to God That statement is wrong. The tradition of men, human opinion, false science, religious creeds, nor popular opinion override the plain teaching of God's Word.
Baptists: 10 Important Things to Know About The Church Beliefs You hurt the cause of Christ regardless your intentions and you should be ashamed of yourself, especially if you think this is the proper way to obey the two commandments the Lord Jesus said were the most important. We forgive people, but only God can forgive sins. Theres a lot that is biblical in your post that we should want to do and some not biblical and therefore should abstain from practice.
around the world wherever our Lord directs. 31 But in saying that, you testify against yourselves that you are indeed the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. The pastor explained forgiveness and that Jesus has already forgiven his sin on the cross and if I choose to not forgive than I am believing in my heart Jesus didnt die for his sin.. We believe in one Triune God, eternally existing in three personsFather, Son, and Holy Spirit, co-eternal in being, co-identical in nature, co-equal in power and glory, and having the same attributes and perfections (Deuteronomy 6:4; II Corinthians 13:14). I have 3 children I sometimes spank I sometimes lecture. I dont post this to to attack you, nor defend Dave, rather to simply point out that perhaps both are not setting the best of examples? I didnt really say you can get drunk on grape juice but if I did, I might be a little confused. We as a couple decided to do things biblical. People to Be Executed", "Deported NZ pastor Logan Robertson shows no remorse for harassing 'sissy' Muslims", "Police investigating Auckland pastor who threatened homosexuals", "Advocates urge supporters to ask landlord to evict Stedfast Baptist", "North Texas church that called for execution of gay people won't be evicted", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Independent_Fundamentalist_Baptist&oldid=1142179437, Baptist denominations established in the 21st century, Anti-Islam sentiment in the United States, Organizations that oppose LGBT rights in the United States, Christian organizations established in 2017, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 23:30. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? But I do know some churches practice free will offerings instead of tithing. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. ? There are a lot of IFB pastors out there like that, the majority of the ones I sat under were like that, they just want to see you do better. You can read more about it here: https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/, I never said the IFB is a cult because some IFB churches may not be the best. I dont agree with this because there is nothing wrong with going to college. Growing up in a very conservative IFB church, I can personally attest to how accurate most of these were. Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. God Wasnt going to see our fornicating as bringing glory to him. Why dont you focus on the log in your own eye then you might be able to see the speck in my eye. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. No, thats silly! 22 of the congregations are in 16 U.S. states, one in British Columbia, three are in the Philippines, two are in the Australian states of New South Wales and Queensland, and one congregation is located in the South African town of Middelburg. Because of your traditions you have destroyed the authority of Gods word. Yes. Grow your faith in a less toxic environment. Only God decides who goes to heaven and who doesnt. (II Corinthians 12:12; I Corinthians 13:8; Hebrews 2:3-4; Mark 16:17-20; I Corinthians 1:22, 14:21-22). If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I only hope that you will see it before too long. I cant stand when preachers pound the pulpits because its distracting and irritating for me though I am not against preachers yelling as long as they dont yell too loud.
Find a Church | IndependentBaptist.church You tend to lump independent Baptist or independent religious organizations into one lump, sensing that they are all the same. I have to admit its a lot less work than actually thinking through things. If you run into a church member at the grocery store and see that they have a bottle of wine or maybe a 6-pack of beer in their cart and you struggle over whether you should share this information with your pastor, you might be and independent fundamental Baptist! Back then, you had to wear your Sunday best.
Baptist beliefs You dont just GO WITH THE FLOW. First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. I get the vibe that you were alienate by IFB movement at some point, as were a lot of us, but dont try to use that as an excuse to go on a crusade against fellow believers. The other thing is: Nowhere in the bible are we commanded to attend a regular CHURCH building and dress nice. If your denomination knocked on their door im sure they wouldnt have gotten saved and the helped they needed. 2. If you first came to church because Brother Dave or Brother Mike knocked on your door and invited you, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist.